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Subject: If all you got to live for is what you left behind..
Im so with you "boscomorgan"I've written it in some of my reviews about some of the bashers. Where else could you find what was going on at these shows with music and such..NOWHERE!!!!!!! Even if things were a little fucked up..it was ours and what we had was special! I was at this show and loved it..all of it..inside,outside and what happened up on the stage..mainly because it wasn't happening anywhere else in the world...period! I don't ever over think or under appreciate what we had! so with that being said>GIVE IT A WHIRL>Forever Grateful>Forever Dead!!! LIFER@!@!@!
Subject: How about that?
From the spring tour of '85 up until the end of the year it seems like a bunch of people just did not dig what the band had to offer. You hear the ol' bullshit Jerry's gettin' high and he is showing it by playin' or maybe not playing. I would be hard pressed to find 4 lame shows in'85. But i am sure if i tried real hard i could remember them,i think. Yeah jerry was overweight and yeah he managed to not bathe that much but the main part of jerry was hittin' the old persian.How many among us are waiting to be annointed into the sainthood? Not to many huh. One of the reasons he was gettin' high is because he enjoyed it [ and if anyone reading this has delved into the black hole it isn't easy to get out as you may know.No matter what comes down he was gonna run back to the tin foil and lighters. nuff said on that topic. Back to the music that happened on 11/10/85 .It was pretty fucking great man. If the people who just wait to write a review on the show comparing it to whatever the fuck else just sat there and listened they would hear how good it was instead they sit and wait to trash it.Why all the comparing this show to that show how about just digging what is being played in front of you. Nobody fucking cares trust me. I miss these cat's real bad,man but the one thing i do not miss is the geeks talkin that same shit of how this Truckin' blows away the 1 in glens falls 2 shows ago or jerry is to high or phil drank a few heinekens to many.People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. You perfectionists really did not dig the sounds coming off the stage all you want to do is compare it or trash it instead of just digging it.You missed alot of good music due to your mindless thoughts.
Mind Wondrin -
Subject: So where's this meadow everyone's talkin' bout?
Doses! Oh, you're just here for the neighboring Giants game? Um, never mind.
At the time Meadowlands was considered "big" shows; 2 nights at the arena (currently called "IZOD" but then called "Byrne"), plus it was the NYC crowds, where the Dead were intensely beloved and known to play fast. They could have sold 4 nights instead of two (and just 20 months later would move over to the shitty-sounding stadium instead of doing the arena run) which would likely have assuaged this notorious, early sign of the gatecrash era. Guess they had a venue limitation, scheduling conflict or just didn't want to saturate the market? (The latter was a big mid-80s thing). Whatever - bad decisions get made; ain't no time to hate. I remember people saying this was one of the best shows of the year. And others saying "meh". You might think "yeah, but people always said that", but the hardcore heads I hung with were honest about middling shows. There were other things going on as well. Many heads in '85 were already lamenting the (relatively) smaller venues of just a couple years prior. Plus, this was right after that hot Richmond Coliseum show - the only '85 show officially released so far (DP21). There were stories of asshole, scene-damning gate-crashers and uncool yahoos flooding from the city (hey, everybody has a first show), problems with NJ troopers, & poor interface with the NFL fans. A friend of mine, who flew to the shows, opined that all this made the boys play even better (if they were even aware of the goings-on; I guess maybe they were told at intermission of the gate-crash). Who was right?
I remember hearing this show soon after 'cause a dude I knew had some fast hookups. Though it was a 2nd gen AUD, it was clearly an inspired show, even though '85 was a year with several great shows (stay on the bus as it exits onto the bypass, around the new-hindsight, 70s snobs, and listen).
I am so glad I revisited/picked this show to listen to. I'd all but forgotten it. I wish the all the shows I caught in '85 were this hot! Not only is this one of the best of '85, it's one of the Top 10 of '84-'86. I wouldn't give stars lightly (they're not all Spring '77-qual, 5 star shows, ostensibly only 20% can be!). An average, fun-as-hell '80s show should be 2 1/2 stars. To be a 4-star show, imo, it has to be overall consistent and have a few A or A+ songs that are great examples from a given era. This is that show. If it didn't flag a bit towards the end (they pretty much bail on a rough Comes a Time) it would be a 5-star show.
I had momentarily forgot what pre '87 Touch -particularly an East Coaster- was like and when the 1st set opened so majorly uptempo I did a pitch correction check! PitB is very '72-ish. In UJB, at ~3:54, Bobby makes a flub and you can hear Jer grin in his next line. As often happens, the So Many Roads Box culled Cassidy, one of the weakest of the show. Musicians know that if you weaken at the end of the show, you need to give a great encore so people will have a positive recollection; in this case, coming back with a decent Baby Blue. But the flagging near the end could be why some people didn't think this show was all that. Today we are spoiled by the archive and can focus on the A+ tracks from this show!
Show is Known for :
1/2 Step > Rider (yeah, you read that right, and it's better than just historical ticklist)
UJB > Supplication Jam (Bobby tried to go there, anyway)
Current Best Sources:
Barbella source for the 1st three tracks, because the Doughty source has a balance problem for those. You'll also want the Barbella source for It's All Over Now because the end is cut on the Doughty source. Use the dynamite Doughty source for all others. Run it through your fave EQ. Bam! Booyah!
Highlights of the Show:
Touch, Hell, It's All Over Now, Row, Playin'
Highlights of all of 1985, from This Show:
Feel Like a Stranger, 1/2 Step>I Know You Rider
1st Set: A-
2nd set: B-
Overall Show Rating: B+ 4 stars
Subject: the end
Gate crashing.Learning of the crowd, Boys welcomed them with second set ' Half-step' opener.
this show had my favorite 'Stagger Lee' as well.
I know you rider.
Subject: OK show,
not bad SBD recording.
Subject: 5 star
Great standout Sugaree, Stranger, Row Jimmy and Baby Blue.